Recently, Mike from Lifeforcecolloidalsilver.com answered a customers question about an excellent youtube video by zerofossilfuel that was full of Mike’s disinformation. Zero was demonstrating making true colloidal silver using a constant current system with sodium carbonate as an electrolyte and corn syrup as a reducing agent to convert ionic silver to colloidal silver. This is a tried and true method, and a similar method is used by bonafide lab researchers when researching the properties of silver colloids.
You can see this misinformation post here.
Lets look at the 3 main responses by Lifeforce Mike:
- Mike says the bubbles coming off the cathode are from electrolyzing water. Well Mike, I’m afraid thats not true. At the cathode, sodium ions are being reduced to sodium metal, but sodium metal reacts violently with water creating sodium hydroxide and hydrogen gas. This is where the hydrogen comes from. Mike goes on to claim that the yellow color of the colloid comes from silver carbonate, but this is also untrue. If Lifeforce Mike actually knew his chemistry, he would know that dissolving sodium carbonate in water produces sodium hydroxide and carbonic acid. But carbonic acid is a weak acid with a kA (acid dissociation constant )of about 4.3X10-7. That means that only 1 out of 2.2 million carbonic acid molecules dissociate into ions, whereas all of the sodium remains as ions. IE: There are 2.2 million times more hydroxide ions than carbonate ions. So the amount of silver carbonate created is negligible
- Next, Lifeforce Mike goes on to say that the Karo corn syrup together with the sodium carbonate make sodium gluconate. This is also untrue, as all sodium compounds in water totally dissociate. What does happen is that the sodium hydroxide from hydrolyzing the sodium carbonate converts the glucose molecule from a ring structure to a linear structure activating it as a reducing agent for silver. Mike goes on to say now that the sugar caramelizes which causes the yellow color in the solution. Of course, this is easily disproven simply by mixing the sodium carbonate and Karo to see if it turns yellow…. it does not. I guess Mike is too lazy to test that.
- Mike goes on to criticize Zero for not using the Tyndall test to see if a colloid was produced. Zero did not have to do this test because he already knew what he had made, as he had followed the scientific method of producing it. Also, a strong positive Tyndall effect is not really desirable. The Tyndall effect shows large particles, large enough to reflect light. Silver nanoparticles are much smaller than light waves and hence do not reflect light. So a positive Tyndall means the particles are not small enough to be therapeutically effective. Silver nanoparticles instead exhibit the Plasmon Resonance effect which makes them filter out light of a specific frequency, normally blue light. This leave red and green which the eye sees as yellow color.Mike yet makes another mistake by saying that ionic silver is tasteless while silver nanoparticles taste metallic. The human tongue’s taste buds are sensitive only to ions and very small proteins. Being much larger than ions or proteins, silver nanoparticles cannot trigger taste buds, and therefore are tasteless.Mike’s last bone of contention is that ZeroFossil used 0.999 pure silver instead of 0.9999. Mike thinks this bad because of the possible contaminants in 0.999 silver. The truth is that any contaminants caused by the 0.999 silver will be in the parts per billion range, which is far purer than any drinking water, and is absolutely no health hazard. There is nothing wrong with using 0.9999 purity silver, but there is also no need to worry about it.
In summation, Lifeforce Mike is a good example of how a little knowledge without understanding is a bad thing.
In 2008, I started the colloidal silver forum to combat the plethora of misinformation about colloidal silver which pollutes the internet. It seems to be a losing battle.
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The effectiveness of silver nanoparticles (colloidal silver) has been proven many times in the laboratory, and a rich history of use. But how it works has mostly remained a mystery. Researchers tend to look at specific aspects of the action that silver nanoparticles have on pathogens, but don’t take a step back and look at the broader picture. This is colloquially known as not being able to see the forest for the trees.
An example is the in-vitro research using ionic silver solutions to kill ecoli bacteria. The effect of the silver solution is quite good at killing the ecoli in the test medium. However, other researchers have proven that ionic silver is very susceptible to being reduced to metallic silver simply by the respiration byproducts (exudate) of ecoli bacteria. IE: The ionic silver is converted to metallic silver nanoparticles before it actually contacts the bacteria. So while it is true that the ionic silver killed the ecoli, it was converted to metallic silver beforehand by the very bacteria which it killed.
So this is an attempt to see the forest without being blinded by the trees.
Reposted from the Colloidal Silver Forum
Argyria is the gray/blue discoloration of the skin caused by the ingestion of certain types of silver preparations. According to studies done with electron microscopes, the blue/gray color is the result of silver compounds within the cells. The silver compounds inside the cell have been determined to be silver sulfide (sulfur) and silver selenide (selenium).
The major types of silver are metallic or ionic.
Ionic silver means the silver exists as a soluble compound with other substances, like oxides, chlorides, nitrates, citrates, acetates, etc. In its ionic state, the silver has a positive electric charge because it has donated an electron to the other part of the compound. Not all silver compounds are soluble, and therefore are not ionic. Insoluble compounds are not ionic. Silver sulfide for example is a silver compound that is not water soluble and therefore not ionic in water.
Metallic silver is a cluster of individual silver atoms about 15 billionths of a meter in diameter, and carries no net electric charge because it has not given any electrons away. However, it has an effective negative charge because its electrons are on the surface of the atoms. Opposite electric charges attract to each other, while like electric charges repel.
This difference in electric charge is very important in understanding how argyria occurs. Human cells require certain ions for life, like sodium, potassium, magnesium, calcium etc. Human cells carry a negative electric charge on their surface which attracts positively charged ions like sodium and potassium to their surface where they are ingested through special pores on the cell wall. Metallic silver particles are repelled by cell walls, so it is not possible for metallic silver to enter a cell and be trapped inside. Also, metallic silver particles are at least 50 times larger than an ion, and as such are far too large to enter through the cells’s pores.
Many purveyors of colloidal silver say that ionic silver cannot cause argyria because ions are the smallest size and cannot get ‘stuck’ within cells. The fallacy of this argument is that it assumes that the silver ion remains an ion, but this is untrue. Once inside the cell, the silver ions combine with sulfur inside the cell and become insoluble silver sulfide, or combine with selenium and become insoluble silver selenide. These silver compounds are very stable and there is no way for them to leave the cell.
So, ionic silver is attracted to cell walls, and will enter them the same way that the essential metal ions like sodium and potassium. Once inside, they chemically react with any sulfur or selenium in the cell and become insoluble. At that point they are stuck with no way out. As more silver becomes trapped, it begins to color the cell the characteristic blue/gray hue that Paul Karason is famous for.
Granted, it takes a long time and a lot of silver to make your skin turn blue. This is because most of the ionic silver is absorbed by the cells of a person’s internal organs long before it gets to the skin. However, it is cumulative, and builds up slowly. The first place it becomes visible is the whites of the eyes and the fingernails. Also, most of the silver which escapes being quickly absorbed by the cells of the digestive tract and liver will soon be converted to metallic silver by the glucose and other antioxidant chemicals in the blood. However, some remains as free ions circulating with the blood, and ends up in skin cells. It is the ionic silver which has been converted in the body to metallic which becomes effective against pathogens. This has been proved by electron microscope studies of metallic silver attacking bacteria.
Bacteria carry a positive electric charge, which is how they are able to enter and infect cells. This positive charge makes them attracted to metallic silver particles. When they come into contact, the difference in electric field between the two burns a hole in the cell wall of the bacteria, effectively killing it. Therefore, it would be wise to avoid ionic silver and use only metallic silver.
To tell whether your silver is metallic or ionic is very simple. Ionic silver is clear like plain water, and has a metallic taste. Metallic silver is yellow colored and is tasteless.
I had a gentleman voice concerns to me about using corn syrup to make colloidal silver because the corn may have been genetically modified. I think more and more people are rightfully waking up to the possible dangers of genetically modified foods, so others may have the same concerns.
Corn syrup is a mixture of two sugars, glucose and fructose. It also has a small amount of salt and vanilla flavoring. Corn syrup is made from corn starch. Starches are long chains of glucose molecules which are broken down into single sugar molecules during the processing.
A molecule of glucose or fructose is identical in all respects to any other molecule of glucose of fructose regardless of its source. Sugar molecules contain no genetic material, and any aberrant proteins resulting from the modified genes cannot be present in the sugar molecules. Therefore, there is no risk from using corn syrup derived from GMO corn.
Some people are under the misconception that colloidal silver generators can produce alkaline water of pH 10. This is absolutely false. It is however possible to produce colloidal silver which reads pH 10 on an electronic pH meter. This is because standard electronic pH meters have silver based probes which do not read correctly in solutions containing silver, gold, and most transition metals.
From the pH Meter Guide at http://www.professionalequipment.com/guide-to-pH-meters/articles/
Since standard electrodes contain silver in the reference solution within the electrode, there are numerous applications where this kind of electrode can’t be used. The subsequent solutions cannot be measured with general purpose electrodes.
Heavy metals including silver, iron and lead
Organics such as acetone
Low ion solutions such as distilled water
High sodium concentrations such as solutions containing large amounts of salts
The type of electrode supplied with most pH meters is the silver electrode.
The true pH of the colloidal silver solution can be determined by using the correct pH meter electrodes, called Calomel electrodes. Calomel electrodes are based on mercury instead of silver, so silver in the solution does not interfere and produce a false reading. It can also be verified with Hydrion pH test paper, which is also not affected by metal ions in the water.
A knowledge of general chemistry and the periodic chart of the elements should also make it clear that silver solutions cannot be pH 10 unless there is sufficient sodium, potassium, magnesium, calcium, or other elements present from columns one or two of the periodic chart (except hydrogen). Elements from column 1 are called alkali metals because they react with water to form hydroxides. Elements from column 2 are called alkaline earth metals and also form hydroxides in water. Of these elements, only sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium are friendly to the human body. Beryllium for example is very toxic.
Water has a pH less than 7 because a portion of the water ionizes creating 10-7 moles of H+ ions and 10-7 moles of OH– ions per liter of water. The 7 comes from the mathematical operation of taking the logarithm of 10-7 which is -7 and multiplying that by -1 giving 7. This should make the pH exactly 7, but dissolved carbon dioxide from the air creates carbonic acid which lowers the pH.
To make water more acid, there must be more H+ ions than OH– ions. To make water more alkaline, there must be more OH– ions than H+ ions. At pH 8, there is 10-8 moles of H+ ions, and 10-6 moles of OH– ions per liter. The exponents always add up to 14.
Where do the extra OH– ions come from? They come from the alkali or alkaline earth hydroxides. Thats why only these elements can raise the pH of the water to any extent.
Silver does not form hydroxides with water. During electrolysis, silver hydroxide is formed at the anode, but quickly decomposes into silver oxide, which is not an alkaline substance.
At pH 10, there must be 1000 times as many OH– ions and 1/1000 times as many H+ ions.
Anyone claiming that their colloidal silver equipment produces ph 10 alkaline water is proving their ignorance of basic chemistry.
Starting with distilled water with a milliliter of 1 molar sodium carbonate, the pH measures slightly over 7 to 7.5. After reducing the resultant silver with invert sugar, the pH is usually slightly less than 7 because of the formation of gluconic acid which results from the oxidation of the sugar. Never is the pH anywhere near a true value of 10.
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