Using a Nebuliser to Administer Colloidal Silver

A number of users of CS have posted on the old forum about using a nebuliser to deliver CS directly into the lungs. For lung infections, this is an excellent way of delivering the CS directly to the place it is needed.
It was of particular use to those makers of clear IS who either didn’t know how to make metallic CS or who felt that IS was more effective, as the ionic content would not be turned into Silver Chloride in the stomach. If the illness is other than in the lungs, then it would be easier and far more effective to use metallic (capped) CS-C and take a higher dose is an easier way (orally). A nebuliser can only deliver 10 mls of CS in about twenty minutes.
However, for use with lung infections, a nebuliser is a very effective method of getting the Silver to where it can do most good. A nebuliser can be powered by ultrasonic means or by an air or oxygen jet. Naturally, the finer the mist, the better, as this enables the CS to reach the deepest part of the lungs. It is recommended to use sugar-or heat-reduced CS. Ionic Silver Oxide does work, but there is an unnecessary risk of Argyria is this form is used.
The use of a nebuliser is very definitely an experimental process; this is a cutting-edge use of CS and should be treated with considerable caution. I have used a nebuliser with CS, and there is no apparent effect on a healthy human BUT DO NOT ASSUME that the same would the case with a severely-ill individual. All the Internet comments stress that the Silver is getting straight into the deep and most heavily-infected part of the lungs of the sick individual, and the results can be spectacular in every way, both as to the effectiveness of the treatments and the possibility of very severe coughing fits that may occur.
A coughing fit that would cause no trouble to a healthy individual may be life-threatening to a person with very heavily-infected or damaged lungs. In every case where a person is breathing in a wheezing or laboured manner, or where a severe coughing fit might cause (or has caused) concern, a medically-trained or aware person should be present while a nebuliser is in use, and the volunteer patient should be giving fully-informed consent to the process. Particular care should be taken if the ill person is unable to sit up and lean forward to clear sputum or other fluids from their windpipe. The straining process during coughing may also lead to a person vomiting and there is a risk of inhalation of the vomitus. I would suggest that a nebuliser only be used while a person is able to sit up and get out of bed, at least for the first half-dozen sessions.
Having stressed the above, CS delivered by inhalation is reported to be so effective, even in the tiny doses that it is possible to deliver by this means, that I would certainly try it myself if I had a lung infection. I would also ensure that I took a large dose orally as well, simply because the infection would be best attacked from all directions.
I do know of people trying to use a humidifier as the volume of mist is far higher that an ultrasonic nebuliser, but I would be wary of using a humidifier to breathe the vapour in directly; it is possible that the amount of water may give rise to the same effect as pneumonia, i.e. too much liquid in the lungs. Direct inhalation is not the same as disinfecting a room with a humidifier. If an oxygen bottle is used to atomise the CS, then pure medical oxygen in excess of 20-30 psi gives the best results. Oxygen will also have a synergistic effect with the CS, as anaerobic bacteria will be destroyed by exposure to oxygen.
When using a nebuliser, start out with the finest mist possible. The mist should resemble wisps of vapour and cause a slight dampening of the area around the nose when used with a nebuliser mask. I would use about 10 mls per “dose”, and repeat the session several times per day, rather than keep refilling the nebuliser cup again and again. I would use about 10 mls up to four times a day, although I would welcome the input of others who have tried this protocol.
Inhalation of CS should NOT be the first time a person has ever taken CS. It is important to give CS orally first, to ensure that any Herxheimer effects are not too severe, and also to ensure that no allergic reaction takes place.
NEVER use anything except CS (or the prescribed medication) in a nebuliser. NEVER EVER use Ionic Silver salts in a nebuliser, (in the form of Silver Citrate, Nitrate, etc.) While I have used ISO (Ionic Silver Oxide) in a nebuliser, there is an unnecessary risk of Argyria. The other Silver salts (Nitrate etc.) are absolutely contra-indicated. They have no valid use internally, whatsoever.

Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction

Anyone who experiments with Colloidal Silver for any length of time will need to understand the Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction (or Herxheimer reaction for short).
Silver is such an effective killer of bacteria, viruses, fungi and yeasts, that a very seriously-ill person may suffer from a reaction to the release of toxins caused by the large-scale death of those pathogens. While this is a normal process and does not normally cause any issues noticeable to the person who is self-treating, sometimes the pathogen die-off is so severe that the person starts to feel more unwell than the initial discomfort experienced as a result of the disease.
When a person is taking CS for the first time, there may also be an effect from the die-off of the many millions of (normally-harmless) bacteria within the body. It is necessary to make a new user of CS aware of this effect, so that they understand that this is a normal part of the healing process, and do not mistakenly view it as being caused directly by the CS itself.
The Herxheimer Reaction is normally short-term and can be regarded as a form of detoxification by the body, and the body may experience symptoms similar to those of Influenza; mild-to-moderate fever, headache, joint and muscle pain, body aches, sore throat, general malaise, sweating, chills and nausea. The skin, being a known outlet for the disposal of poisons, may also show exaggerated blotches or itching.
It resembles the medical definition of sepsis (which is hardly surprising) and can also happen after a prescription of antibiotics, such as penicillin or tetracycline (again, hardly surprising).
Sources on the Internet state that the Herxheimer reaction is particularly common during the treatment of relapsing fever, syphilis, Lyme disease, leptospirosis, brucellosistyphoid fever, and trichinosis; in particular, any disease involving spirochaete bacteria.
If this reaction is particularly severe, doctors may prescribe anti-inflammatory drugs such as aspirin every four hours for a couple of days, or 60 mg of prednisone. Patients should be closely monitored for the potential collapse and shock. In extreme cases, meptazinol, may be prescribed.
The Herxheimer Reaction is a perfectly normal reaction that shows that the CS is destroying the pathogens. CS does not directly cause the Herxheimer reaction. Anyone who suffers from this effect should try to maintain the consumption of CS at a lower dose or stop for a few days and then re-start the dosage, as this is the curative, not causative agent. CS is not toxic, and it should be emphasised that most people never experience the Herxheimer reaction.
The single most effective “treatment” for the Herxheimer reaction is drinking water. All users of Colloidal Silver should maintain a high intake of fluids, and water in particular. If this reaction is experienced, then it is better to endure the detoxification process if possible, even if it has to be done in stages by reducing the intake (volume and frequency) of CS, as the body is successfully cleansing itself of the unwanted pathogens and this reaction is a sign that the parasitical load is particularly high in that individual.
Any really-serious symptoms such as irregular heartbeat, breathing difficulties or coughing so severe that the person cannot “catch their breath” or significant swelling in the throat, should be given immediate medical attention.
Coming next: The use of Nebulisers with CS.

Electrode Geometry

This post is to illustrate the effects of different spacing and sizes of electrodes. You will soon get an understanding of the best spacing for your own chosen electrodes, but you should know the principles. All the following “rules” are actually approximations, but you will be able to fine-tune them yourself. This is probably the most important subject to learn once you have mastered the basics.
If you double the size of your electrode, you should be able to double the current. Note that only the side of the anode which faces the cathode should be used to calculate the area. Kephra found that the best results used about 1 ma per square centimetre with the distilled water kept hot, and using a stirrer if possible.
I only use a stirrer if “cooking” cold. I find that the convection currents are adequate to stir the DW, but if you have a stirrer, laboratory or home-made, then use that. More vigorous stirring is better, the idea being to sweep the silver ions away from the anode as fast as possible.
Maximise the anode size, minimise the cathode area. A piece of copper wire, stainless steel or brass is fine, unless the current is set to alternate polarity at intervals.
1 ma per square centimetre of submerged anode area for the suggested current when processing DW hot.
10 ma per square inch of submerged anode area when processing DW hot.
2 or 3 ma per sq inch of anode area when processing cold.
Moving the electrodes closer together increases the amperage (until the set-point of the constant-current circuit is reached).
For a Silver wire anode, 4 inches submerged depth, we suggest no higher current than 3 ma cold and 6 ma hot-processed. 12 gauge wire is 2 mm in diameter.
Remember that the effective area of an anode is that which is facing the cathode (the reverse side has much less effect) and of course, submerged in the DW. Do not allow suspension devices or parts of the holder to touch the DW unless they are made of the same quality of silver as the anode.
If you seem to need a lot of electrolyte and want to use less, increase the size of the electrodes or move them closer together.
If you need to use more electrolyte to prevent cathode plating, raise more of the cathode out of the water, or increase the electrode spacing.
If you are using a circuit with a constant-current limiter, connect a voltmeter across the electrodes and connect an ammeter in series between the positive connector of the PSU and the anode. Once the water is up to the operating temperature, measure the voltage across the electrodes in air.  Submerge the electrode array. Add electrolyte until the voltage starts to drop to about 90 per cent of the original value. This indicates that the constant-current circuit is now operating to control the voltage in order to maintain the current. Note the current. The operating voltage should be as high as reasonably possible, between 20 and 30 volts (at the beginning of the process) is ideal. If possible, maintain the voltage over 10 volts by moving the electrode spacing.
If each drop of Sodium Carbonate makes too big a change in the measured voltage across the electrode array, then dilute the electrolyte and use more drops of a more dilute product.
If you are getting hydrogen and oxygen bubbles coming off the electrodes in any significant quantity, then either the current is too high or stirring is too slow. Increase the speed of the stirrer or use a miniature water pump.
To increase the electrode voltage, reduce the area of the cathode exposed to the water. You can even raise the cathode out of the water so far that the tip of the cathode wire is just touching the water, but ensure that the evaporation of the DW does not leave the cathode out of the water during your production process.
Professional electro-platers use a “dog-bone anode” where the thin edges of the plate are swollen and rounded off, because the electrical field is concentrated at sharp edges. You can see this effect when running with too little electrolyte, as the oxide accumulates on the edges of the strip of Silver. I am unsure whether this would have any significant effect for our application. I personally ignore this effect.

Give your Experiences here

This is the part of the blog for your experiences or difficulties in making CS. You can ask for help, boast about your results, or offer advice and ideas to others.
Just remember that we are all researchers in this field. Neither Kephra or I are doctors, and we don’t/won’t/can’t give any medical advice. We are just putting on record what we have found to work in our own experience, for us. That is why this section is so important, as the dose-rates are essential to the successful use of CS in all its’ forms.

Production of High-ppm CS with Orchestra

As CS is so useful in a USA bug-out bag, otherwise known in Britain as a gentleman’s picnic hamper, I thought I would add some notes for the production of Cinnamon-reduced CS at 100 ppm.
The purpose of such high-ppm CS is NOT for taking a higher amount of Silver in the same dose. It is for the purpose of ease of transport. The resulting product can be diluted with any reasonably clean water to give standard 20 ppm bright-yellow CS, so two half-litres of 100 ppm CS are equivalent to just over a gallon (five litres) of 20 ppm CS, a very useful saving in weight and cost of distilled water.
The process is remarkably similar to production of 20 ppm cinnamon-reduced CS but with each 20 ppm run repeated five times. The set-up is much the same as that on the previous posting about cinnamon-reduced CS, but you will need a few extra items.
First, hire an orchestra. They will need good nerves. Then you will need to hire a Monster. These are available from Pinewood Studios for a reasonable sum, but they insist that the Monster must be accompanied by a wrangler, known in the trade as a Henchman, hired at extra cost. You will need a laboratory with a skylight giving a view of the night sky.
A set of tables giving the phases of the moon is highly desirable, and the weather forecast can be obtained in the UK Met Office on Tel: +441392885680. You will need to pick a night with a violent thunderstorm for your experiment.
Obtain the services of a good roofer, and engage him to attach a stout copper lightning-conductor to the chimney, or if you are fortunate in your choice of home, upon the battlements.
On the chosen night, go out after dark and soundly thrash your Werewolf if he disturbs the local peasants too much. In the event that the peasantry gather with pitchforks and scythes outside the curtilage, an appearance upon the roof of your home, laughing manically, will deter them.
As the storm gathers, set up the CS equipment and adjust the hotplate to heat a measured volume of distilled water. It should be just hot enough to make small bubbles at the bottom of the reaction vessel, but not hot enough for a rolling-boil. Mark the level of the water, as you will need to top up the water during the process. Start the current and add sodium carbonate drop by drop, until the voltage drops a little, perhaps to about 90 per cent of the initial voltage. Add 2mls of cinnamon extract to the reaction vessel for every litre of distilled water. Ensure that the maximum Silver anode is exposed to the water, minimum cathode, and start the timer. This whole process is much simpler if you buy a SilverTron I, but the instructions are for a normal laboratory PSU.
Inform the conductor that he needs to start the orchestra off. Something slow and benign, possibly classical; or maybe a tune from a favourite film of yours. Have him build to a crescendo over the next three hours while the process takes place. Any liquid refreshments should not be coloured red, as it will panic the second violins, who are made of less stern stuff than the brass section. Sandwiches should contain meat that is immediately identifiable, for the same reason. At the height of the storm, as the lightning is melting the copper conductor, then occupy yourself by going out onto the roof again, to ensure you have not lost too many peasants to the Werewolf. Ensure that Hench has strapped the Monster down tightly, and then return to your laboratory for the next part of the process.
Run the first 20 ppm, then stop the current and fire-clean the anode by heating it in a gas flame until the oxide coating goes white (reverts back to metallic Silver). Then top up the reaction vessel with more distilled water and repeat the process run, five times. At the end of the process, the 100 ppm CS will look like motor oil, but if you dilute it 1 part 100 ppm CS to four parts of water (remember it does not need to be distilled water for the purpose of dilution AFTER the end of the process) then you should be back to yellow 20 ppm CS. If the colour looks correct, and there is no significant taste, then you are finished.
Kephra has demonstrated this process with gelatine as an alternative to cinnamon, but the cinnamon tincture is an easy way to start and practice before going on to more advanced methods.

Argyria: Notes on the attempt to destroy the use of Colloidal Silver.

If you speak to people who know nothing about Colloidal Silver, and you give them a bottle of it to try, they will immediately go onto the Internet and search for the subject. They will then send you a panicky email and the email will almost certainly reveal their utter ignorance of Colloidal Silver by attaching a picture of, or a link to, Paul Karason;
Paul Karason not only consumed vast amounts of badly-made Silver Chloride, but also baked it onto his skin (Silver compounds are photo-sensitive) in what I can only assume was a deliberate attempt to become a talking-point in his home town. I don’t consider that he has achieved anything but notoriety for his action. I would also be interested in what he has to say about the damage that his absurd behaviour has done to the cause of Silver-derived health treatments.
The other person referred to by all the anti-CS Pharma people that all the ignorami mention, is Rosemary Jacobs. I am sorry for her severe skin blemishes, caused by her (prescribed) excessive use of (what was almost certainly) Silver Nitrate drops, but from her anti-CS writings, I can only conclude that she either doesn’t have the faintest idea what modern CS is (or how it is made), or that she is deliberately trying to put people off from using CS for reasons that I will charitably not comment upon. Either way, she hints that CS was responsible, when it had nothing to do with her skin condition. At the time she was prescribed her treatment, CS was not used or prescribed by allopathic doctors, and the substance she used was some form of Silver compound, almost certainly dilute Silver Nitrate.
I have heard of a few other Argyria cases, all caused by badly-made forms of Silver compounds, long-term use of high ppm products that almost certainly were not IS, or Mild Silver Protein. That’s it. No others. So we have a severe case of “anti-alternative-health-treatment theatre” constantly pushed under the noses of the unknowing by wicked men, in order to put off ill people from treating themselves with an excellent natural antibiotic. All because they want to mount a desperate defence of the dwindling profits made from their sale of allopathic drugs, while refusing to invest in any further research to discover new antibiotics. None of these cases occurred as a result of ingesting metallic CS.
The Chief Medical Officer of England has stated that she is very concerned that no drug companies are investing in new research into new classes of antibiotic, and that there are very few remaining antibiotics to which bacteria have not yet become resistant. She further states that the world is likely to soon enter a “post-antibiotic” era where diseases which were easily curable in the latter part of the last century, (such as pneumonia and gonorrhoea) once again become feared ailments. I agree with her analysis of this risk.
It never seems to occur to her that it might be the business of government to fund research that is for the good of mankind, but which is not financially-lucrative for private Pharmaceutical companies, but that’s a different issue. It also speaks volumes that Big Pharma has become so addicted to long-term drug sales that they are unwilling to fund research into drugs that actually cure people, preferring to finance research into drugs that have to be taken for long periods to maintain a semblance of health; but again, that’s a different issue (but one that is well-known to readers of this and similar blogs).
So we have three classes of Silver-containing liquids: solutions of Silver compounds, such as Silver Nitrate or Silver Chloride; Ionic CS; and finally metallic CS. Both IS & CS have amounts of Silver in them that are minuscule by comparison to the standard Silver compounds used in (for example) deodorants and clothing rinses. In theory, IS belongs to the same class of Silver compounds that possibly might cause Argyria if extensively and absurdly overdosed, but I have drunk large amounts of IS over the years, not knowing how to make the version for internal use (metallic CS) at that time. I never got any degree of grey or blue tint to my skin, ever, and no-one of my personal acquaintance has had any such problems either.
True metallic CS is infinitely less likely to cause Argyria. It is a completely different product, and I have consumed many litres of metallic CS since I learned to make it. Many thousands of people around the world have done the same, and the number of cases of Argyria to a degree similar to Paul Karason, Stan Jones or Rosemary Jacobs, is nil. That is correct; nil. This gives me considerable confidence that nothing is likely to go wrong with properly-prepared CS. I will repeat it, for the hard-of-reading: true metallic CS is much less likely to cause Argyria than IS, and IS is much less likely to cause Argyria than any other Silver compounds.
At 20 ppm, you would have to consume so much colloid in order to even approach a remote possibility of Argyria, that it is probable that you would die from water intoxication first. (Water intoxication is a condition where the blood becomes less concentrated than the fluid inside the cells of the body. When this reaches a certain point, the cells continue to absorb water through osmosis and swell. If the brain also becomes swollen beyond a certain point, the person can die).
It should also be noted that Paul Karason is otherwise completely healthy. Although I accept that his skin colouration is, to say the least, undesirable, he is living proof that Silver has effectively zero toxicity. All research into water purification comes to the same conclusion, that Silver is the one of the best water purification techniques, with zero downside to its’ use.
Kephra has also made a sensible contribution to this debate; steer clear of internal use of IS, and ONLY USE CS WHEN YOU ARE ILL or (I would add) for an occasional internal de-bugging.
Although IS is understandably sold as a “health supplement” by most sales websites, it is an antibiotic. Just as one should never dose animals with antibiotics long-term, so one should normally only use CS when one is unwell.
Will Fitzpatrick’s Open Letter about Argyria
also (but the website severely over-hypes his own product)
A website detailing the issue in a balanced way:
All the currently-reported cases of Argyria:
Finally, there follows a recipe for a cure for Argyria. I make no comment upon its efficacy or safety, but the person who discovered it said that he had done it successfully. It should be noted that the amount of Vitamin E may be on the high side, for some peoples’ metabolisms. It is included here for historical completeness, with no responsibility taken by this website or blog for its’ use.
A Cure for Argyria: The Formula
3 Vitamin E 1000 mg 100% Natural d-alpha Tocopheryl
1 Selenium 100 mcg yeast free
2 vegetarian Vitamin C 1000 mg
1 teaspoon MSM organic
1 super potency Vitamin B 100,
1 teaspoon of Kelp powder
Taken every morning with 2 16 oz glasses of water, with close to 3/4 of a gallon drinking water a day.

Intravenous Use of Colloidal Silver

I found my copy of this post from the old forum. It is unique in that it is (as far as I know) one of the first modern descriptions of IV use of CS. In WWI, it was apparently common for CS to be injected for the purpose of attempting to counter Cholera. Very little remains of their knowledge, although I would welcome anyone’s input if they find old accounts of the use of CS. This pair of posts were put onto the old site by a wonderful person from Africa in response to a request from participant LordKarma. I have sought his permission to quote this pair of responses, as the information is so unique. The first comment was posted to illustrate Tani’s uses of CS. LordKarma then requested that Tani posted his dosages and CS types, which Tani then did.
“My name is Taniform Asongwe, I live in the North Western Region of Cameroon. This region is ravaged by HIV and other diseases.  When I lost my brother in 2009 to HIV I got really annoyed with big Pharma and decided to start investigating the political and economic benefits/motivations of the disease process in general. When I realized how skewed medical curricula became after 1910, the world over, I took the decision to educate myself as much as possible. My conclusion is that a patient cured is a customer lost from the point of view of big Pharma, meanwhile medical research is primarily motivated by large profit margins at a later date, while the FDA is entirely controlled by the pharmaceutical industry for its own interests consequently leading to the ill and suffering to be quietly classified as primary commodities for the biggest market the world has ever endured.
I have had amazing results, my mother has been diabetic for more than 10 years and after prolonged exposure to CS, her sugar levels exceeded 120 only once in the past one year. My aunt was sent home to die with devastating opportunistic infections resulting from HIV. In a few weeks she was leading a normal life to the chagrin and surprise of the MD who sentenced her to death. A kidney infection resulted in my neighbour’s 22 year old son falling into a coma for one week. After administering CS to him in the evening about 7 pm he got up by day break and started urinating. Dialysis was suspended 3 days after exposure to CS, one week after that the catheters were removed as (his urea and creatinin levels normalized) it became conclusive they were no longer required. 3 weeks after that he was back in school. And finally another aunt was diagnosed with [a serious illness], using triple distilled water to produce CS, I passed it through a .2 micron syringe filter and gave it to her intravenously and she has had a full recovery although she was also sent home to die as she could not afford the cost of an operation and subsequent [redacted]therapy.
Joining this forum I realized the mistakes I have been making with the production of CS and I am certain correctly produced CS will be of much needed use to my friends and family. I also have a unique opportunity as giving medical advice here is not as regulated as in the western world. Though I have extreme limitations as to the availability of material and equipment like a hotplate/magnetic stirrer, clear corn syrup, cinnamon, 24 to 36 V DC power adapters it is a challenge. Necessity is the mother of creation. I located a small module in my Chinese made DVD player that outputs 30 V. I plugged it out and tapped the power output and have been making CS with it. A few weeks ago I found corn syrup but it contains a caramel colourant. In any case I am reading up on the forum daily and the astounding results are payment enough for me.
Kephra, I thank you so much for dispensing your incredible knowledge regarding CS for free and it is being put to great use to benefit people here. May God bless you and give you the strength to continue giving us this know-how.
Best Regards, Taniform.”
This is the second posting, after LordKarma requested the dosages;
“At the beginning I gave her [his diabetic mother] approximately 200 ml morning and evening, that’s 400 ml total daily. When she felt better, her eyesight got better and she told me she could see something on a board across the road clearly, her five times peeing in one night was no longer necessary and her energy levels increased and she started tentatively eating some foods she had not been eating. I then reduced it to 2 tablespoons [30 ml] morning and evening for the past eight months now. Though she felt a lot better she at times was not in optimum health, energy levels, skin texture was not so vibrant. I attributed it to her age at 67. However, once I started reducing the ionic/colloidal solution to colloidal as suggested on this forum, she commented about feeling a lot better and started asking for more. I had not informed her I changed the brewing method. Her skin texture is better than it has been in a long time and she does not stop reminding me how much more better she is feeling.
I believe I was producing more colloidal than ionic all along, I simply read up on it,  boiled the water and started the brewing with the water getting cold over time. Now I reduce the gas flame I use and just keep it below boiling point for the ten minutes I need, then reduce with corn syrup. I still cannot determine the exact concentration as I have no TDS meter. I needed to brew for like three hours before getting a slight yellow colour which was my cut off point. Now I brew for 10 minutes after adding a sodium carbonate solution which is quite helpful and I can have more of it.
My abandoned aunt, refused by a medical doctor and referred to go somewhere else with full blown AIDS, she was being carried around and could not eat or talk. I gave her colloidal silver and not ionic as I reduced it with corn syrup and continued boiling until I noticed no more colour change. I started her with 100 ml twice a day because I was worried about a Herxheimer reaction. After a few days when I noticed she was feeling better I increased it to half a litre taken three times daily. Once she started walking and eating without assistance I reduced the dosage again to four tablespoons [60 ml] three times daily. She is no longer plagued by the opportunistic infections, though the HIV is still there.
The grand aunt with [the serious illness], I started her off with two tablespoons three times daily for five days, then I proceeded 5 ml IV once daily for another three days before moving up to 10 ml for 20 days. She had previously been lying down for four months. Now she is back in the market where she sells foodstuff. It was so bad that there was this foul smelling whitish liquid mixed with blood at times dripping down.
The young man whose kidney failed was started at 5 ml IV for three days, then to 10 ml for another seven days then to two tablespoons [30 ml] twice daily for one month. All of this I had to make hard choices because I was being faced with life threatening conditions and had to decide the better yet unknown steps to take.
I hope that I can ask a lot of questions on this forum as I am thinking of using the CS even more courageously particularly regarding HIV. Are there any limitations as to the kind of questions I can ask? I am aware no medical advice is being dispensed on this forum of course.
Currently I have a [seriously-ill] patient who was told she would not be alive by this December. [The illness] had spread right down to her right ribs, of course only visual observation. Since I joined this forum I realized that in the colloidal form I could give her large quantities. She is taking 500 ml daily.  The [illness] has reduced to the [original site] alone where it started but is not getting any better. I am thinking of mixing the CS with DMSO, hoping that it might carry the CS to the growth. I would very much appreciate some input on this. So as of now I am using only colloidal silver.  Sorry for the very long post lordkarma, however I hope to have been explicit enough. Regards Tani.”


I must, regrettably, pass a comment that I hope readers will understand; that Big Pharma and their bought-and-paid-for civil servants do not permit a person to claim that they have a cure for certain serious illnesses, and I therefore categorically assert that Tani’s comments do not constitute any form of claim for a cure. No proof of diagnosis was furnished in the posts.
In addition, I categorically repeat that NONE of the posts or comments on this website purport to be a cure for any form of cancer, and the owners, administrators and users, commentators and participants DO NOT offer to treat any person for cancer, DO NOT prescribe any remedy or remedies for the treatment of cancer, NOR do any of us give, or purport to give or imply, any advice in connection with the treatment thereof. Any posts claiming this or giving anything resembling such will be deleted.

Making Heat-reduced and Sugar-reduced CS

The first improvement over IS was Heat-reduced CS. This makes use of the fact that Silver Oxide will reduce to metallic Silver nanoparticles in the presence of heat and the absence of oxygen. It can be prepared during the actual production run, or post-production by heating the IS until all or most of the IS turns to CS. It is easy to see the process, because the IS turns a golden-yellow when the ions are reduced to AgNP (Silver nanoparticles).
It was then found that monosaccharide sugars – glucose or fructose – in an alkaline solution (higher than pH 7), would achieve the same result using less energy, thus making a cheaper product. Also, sugar ensures that the reduction process is complete and stays complete. The sugars we use are either a solution of glucose or fructose dissolved in distilled water; or alternatively, one drop of inverted sugar syrup (“Golden Syrup” in the UK, “Karo” in the USA) will do the same thing and is easily purchased from a supermarket.
Heat-reduced CS almost always has a slightly metallic taste, indicating that there is some IS left unreduced. Under some conditions, CS-H can oxidise back to a much paler solution, indicating that the CS-H has returned partially to IS. This can be avoided in almost all cases by heating until no further colour change is seen.
Production of Heat or Sugar-reduced Colloidal Silver (CS-H or CS-S)
The basis of production of true CS (AgNP) is the same as production of IS, but one then reduces the ionic content to AgNP with heat or sugar, either during the production run or post-production in a microwave. (I prefer to heat the DW during the run, but either method works). I have copied-and-pasted some of the paragraphs from the previous post, in case some people wish to print out the “recipe” and have it beside them when making the CS.
If this is your first attempt, use a small quantity of DW the first time (say 250 mls), in order to avoid wastage of DW. If you have a laboratory heating plate with magnetic stirrer, this is ideal. However, these stirrers are astoundingly expensive and I have found a single-ring hotplate is quicker to heat the water and can be bought off eBay quite cheaply.
In the absence of a magnetic stirrer, you can stir the water perfectly adequately using the convection currents in the hot DW. Some people use an air-bubbler to stir the water, but I feel this introduces too much oxygen and atmospheric contaminants and evaporates too much DW. I do not use an air-bubbler for any purpose connected with CS production.
Assemble the electrodes in the usual way, over the chosen reaction vessel. Allow time for the hotplate to get up to temperature. You can shorten the time and energy required by pre-heating the DW in a microwave, if the beaker will fit. The temperature at which I run my production is about 80 – 90 degrees C. You do not need a thermometer; the right temperature for hot-water production is when bubbles form at the bottom of the beaker but do not manage to break the upper surface of the water. You may need to top up the DW during a long production run. Tall, relatively narrow cylinders or cafetieres are much more thermally-efficient than a shallow container.
Once the DW is up to temperature, connect the PSU and ensure that the positive lead is connected to the Silver anode. With the voltmeter and ammeter on-line, start the current. We will use the same electrolyte as before, in order to speed up the process and allow us to calculate the ppm of the final product with much greater accuracy. Add Sodium Carbonate drop-by-drop, allowing time for the convection currents to stir the DW and thoroughly mix the electrolyte, until the voltage reduces to about 90 per cent of the initial value. This indicates that your current has come within the control range of the constant-current circuitry of the PSU.
In most cases, if the anode is a silver wire or narrow strip, the current should be around 2-5 mA. 1 toz Silver bullion bars can run at 15 mA. Large Silver anode plates (say, 150 mm long by 30 mm wide) can easily be pushed to 15 mA and I run my very largest anodes at 40 mA. At this time, note the current (mA) and start your timer.
Using the calculations in the previous post, estimate the time required to produce 20 ppm CS. There is no point in attempting to produce uncapped CS at a higher concentration than 20 ppm. Anything over 10 ppm will work effectively, but a final strength between 15 – 20 ppm is desirable. If you wish to make concentrations higher than 20 ppm for ease of storage or transport, then make capped CS. Run the process until the required ppm is made.
You will be able to watch the DW slowly turn yellow as the Silver is reduced to metallic CS AgNP. The process is complete when the run-time indicates that you have made the required ppm of AgNP. At this stage, the heat in the DW will have reduced the majority of IS to AgNP and produced true CS.
To finish making Heat-reduced CS, stop the current and continue to heat the CS-H until no more colour change takes place. You can do this on the hot-plate or if the beaker is small, transfer it to a microwave.
To make sugar-reduced CS, add a drop of “Karo” or “Golden Syrup”. You can make 1 M glucose or fructose and add a few drops, but “Karo” or other inverted-sugar syrups work well. You can add the sugar syrup at the beginning, after the water is heated, and just before you start the current; alternatively, you can add it at the end, while the CS is cooling. Post-production reduction is considered slightly better, as one is not then electrolysing the sugar, but I have found both techniques work very well.
There is one final alternative, which is very energy-efficient, and that is to make IS cold, then boil in a microwave for CS-H, or add a drop of syrup and boil for CS-S. This works, but heating the product during the production run makes for better stirring and the process runs cleaner.
The result should be totally clear, yellow CS containing no visible particles, and the end-product should look like the finest single-malt Scotch whisky (finest Tennessee sippin’ whisky if you’re in the USA). The final colour has also been likened to Johnson’s baby shampoo, (and like the shampoo, CS does not sting even in the eyes). Tasting the product should give no metallic taste, in fact, it should not really taste of anything.
Any large particles of Oxide floating in the water or left at the bottom of the reaction vessel (it looks like black or grey dust) can be removed by filtering through an aquarium air-stone or the CS can be decanted off. If you filter the product, do not use the same tubing and air-stone for filtering IS, or the IS will immediately be reduced to CS.
Other Notes Concerning Colloidal Silver (AgNP).
Sugar-reduced CS is the universal product. It can be used for any purpose for which CS is applicable. The sugar molecules are small enough that they do not “cap” the AgNP in the same way that cinnamon-reduction provides, so CS-H or CS-S may be more suitable for treating wounds or external abrasions. The use of cinnamon-reduced CS for external use is still the subject of research.
Heat-reduced CS (CS-H) is the only version that I would consider for using upon myself intravenously, until more evidence is available. However, we have had a unique and valuable contribution from a forum member which will be the subject of a later post on this aspect of using CS. The possibility of quickly and effectively curing bacterial meningitis (a fast-acting and lethal bacterium) with an IV drip of CS-H is tantalising and theoretically simple.
Until we have more data from up-to-date research, I cannot recommend the use of any CS product for medical use. I am a biologist and chemist but have no medical qualifications. In these pages, I am giving notes as to what I have done and how I have experimented upon myself and other volunteers, in the hope that others may benefit. Anyone who follows these notes should be aware that they are fellow-researchers into one of the most valuable fields of health research in the post-antibiotic era. The use of AgNP for healing has been known (with much more primitive production methods) since the late nineteenth century. These notes are given for research and information purposes only. You should always consult a qualified medical practitioner if you are unwell.

Making Ionic Silver (IS) or Silver Oxide

This product is the only version of “CS” that is available for sale on most websites. There are two manufacturers of CS in the UK who make heat-reduced CS for sale, but I know of none in the USA. It is an effective bactericide, viricide and fungicide. It also accelerates healing of wounds and burns. It is somewhat less-used than the other forms of CS if you know how to make the other versions, but the manufacturing technique is being posted next, as it is the basis of sugar-reduced and heat-reduced CS, as well as being a product in its’ own right.
It has a strong metallic taste. When correctly prepared it does not sting, even in the eyes, and is a powerful accelerator for healing of cuts and abrasions. Although I have found sugar- or heat-reduced CS to give good results in healing scrapes and abrasions, some contributors to the old forum indicated that IS was superior as a healing accelerant when applied topically. It is not ideal for internal use, being possibly implicated in Argyria if consumed in very heavy doses.
IS is nothing more than electrolytically-produced Silver Oxide dissolved in distilled water. Kephra likened the solubility of Silver Oxide to dissolving limestone, which is an effective analogy. It is easiest to prepare by electrolytic means because it is passed directly into the DW during electrolysis, so the process is much faster than trying to dissolve it from a powder. The maximum solubility of IS is close to 20 ppm, so there is no point in attempting to make it more concentrated than that.
Older websites and most commercial websites selling CS-making machines insist that it should be made from nothing but distilled water, (sometimes with the addition of an amount of previously-made IS, as an attempt to speed up the process). The current is then run until the machine (if using a commercial machine) reaches the shut-off point (normally set at approximately 10 – 15 ppm or thereabouts). It can be made this way, but the run takes many hours, and the ppm of the final IS product is almost impossible to calculate unless you are the owner of a SilverTron I.
However, there is a way around this problem, and that is to use the same electrolyte used in the previous article, Sodium Carbonate. In this manner, the run-time can be calculated reasonably accurately, with far less wastage of Silver Oxide plated out onto the cathode. You will see electrodes with a black furry coating of oxide in most photographs of IS production, if an electrolyte is not used.
Production of Ionic Silver (IS)
Production of IS is done cold, or with low levels of heating approximately to the same extent as used in heating an aquarium. To achieve consistency of production, I use an aquarium heater to maintain the DW at approximately 30 degrees C, but this is not necessary.
Assemble the electrodes in the usual way, over the chosen reaction vessel. If this is your first attempt, use a small quantity of DW the first time (say 250 mls), in order to avoid wastage of DW. As you cannot stir the water using heat convection currents, stirring the water with a miniature aquarium pump is a very good idea. If you have a laboratory magnetic stirrer, this is ideal for small reaction vessels if the beaker is too small to hold the submerged pump. However, these stirrers are very expensive; it might be cheaper to use the pump and make a larger quantity in a bigger beaker.
Some people use an air-bubbler to stir the water, but I feel this introduces too much oxygen and atmospheric contaminants and evaporates too much DW.
With the voltmeter and ammeter on-line, start the current. Add Sodium Carbonate drop-by-drop, stirring the water, until the voltage reduces to about 90 per cent of the initial value. At this time, note the current and start your timer.
Using the calculators in the previous post, estimate the time required to produce 20 ppm IS. There is no point in attempting to produce IS at a higher concentration due to the limited solubility of IS. Anything over 10 ppm will work effectively, but a final strength between 15 – 20 ppm is desirable.
Run the process until the required ppm is made. The result should be totally colourless clear IS containing no visible particles, and should look like water. Tasting the product should give a strong metallic taste. Any large particles of Oxide floating in the water or left at the bottom of the reaction vessel (it looks like black or grey dust) can be removed by filtering through an aquarium air-stone. (Note: if you filter your IS, you should keep the tubing and air-stone strictly for use with IS. Any contamination of IS with any amount of a reducing agent, no matter how small, will almost certainly result in the product being reduced to metallic CS. The same applies to storage containers).
Other Notes Concerning Ionic Silver (Silver Oxide)
Sometimes, particularly if the container is kept in a very cold place, some of the Oxide will drop out of solution. If a small amount of grey dust collects at the bottom of the bottle, but the remainder of the body of IS is clear like water, then ignore it and use it anyway. When the air temperature becomes warmer, the IS will (very) slowly dissolve again.
For reasons that are at present unknown, sometimes the entire Silver Oxide content will fall out of solution and form a milky-grey liquid suspension. This can still be used externally, but should under no circumstances be drunk. It is still highly effective in healing burns. There is anecdotal evidence that it works even better than the clear IS, but this is by no means fully proven.
I once stored IS in a plastic drinks bottle, the threads of the cap of which had traces of fructose around it. This reduced the IS to metallic CS. Ensure any recycled containers are scrupulously clean. Old Coke bottles, whether glass or plastic, are particularly prone to this.
It is a good idea, if you can afford it, to keep a set of equipment for the production of IS only, as the smallest trace of reducing agent in the water will result in the product turning into metallic CS. Otherwise ensure you clean out the glassware thoroughly and rinse it with DW before use.
If you visit any website that offers clear, metallic-tasting silver solutions for sale, and which states that their product is more than 20 ppm, it is almost certain that they are offering a Silver salt dissolved in water. Anyone can dissolve Silver Citrate or Silver Nitrate in water and say that it has a high concentration of Silver in the product, but it is not AgNP or CS.
I would not recommend Silver Citrate for any purpose other than as an under-arm deodorant, or as a final rinse in your washing-machine to reduce bacterial growth on clothing. It is sold in the UK as a treatment for paramedics’ clothing. I would not use Silver Nitrate AT ALL, as it can be highly corrosive in high concentrations, and is heavily implicated in some of the few known cases of Argyria.

Making Stabilised (Capped) Reduced CS with Cinnamon Tincture.

As we have seen in previous posts, there are three kinds of CS and one kind of Ionic Silver (IS) that are useful for killing bugs and accelerating healing. (In future, we may discover others, but it is likely that they will be variants on these themes).
Stabilised (capped) CS is the easiest kind of CS to make, and the best for internal use. This is because capped CS holds the nanoparticles apart, one from another, and protects them to some extent while they travel through the acid conditions of the stomach. The capping agent (in our case cinnamon, but gelatine will also work) is then digested and the silver nanoparticles are released to do their work.
Also, the capping effect of the cinnamon allows this form of CS to be made to a MUCH higher ppm than the normal maximum 20 ppm. 80 ppm is easily feasible; Kephra has demonstrated 1000 ppm. This is not for the purpose of consuming the higher ppm in its concentrated state. It is better to water the concentrated CS down to the “normal” 20 ppm, and this can be done with any potable water; it does not have to be distilled water. The advantage, therefore, of the higher ppm is for ease of transport and for a considerable saving in the amount of Distilled Water (DW) used.
So, we measure out a quantity of Distilled Water (DW) into the reaction vessel. If this were your first attempt, it would be best to start with a small glass beaker or cafetiere with about 250 mls capacity, so that if anything goes wrong, you will not be wasting too much DW.
Before doing anything else, fit and adjust the electrodes to give the maximum anode area exposed to the water. Do not allow any non-Silver components on the anode side to touch the water, or you will contaminate the CS. The point at which your Silver electrode is connected to the positive lead should either be out of the water, or covered by painting it in one or more layers of varnish or other impervious waterproof covering. I normally use a crocodile clip to suspend the Silver anode.
The negative cathode should have only a small amount of surface area exposed to the water. Maximum anode, minimum cathode area.
Heat the water using a microwave or the hotplate. Connect all the cables and start the PSU current flowing. Then take the bottle of sodium carbonate and, while watching the voltmeter and ammeter, put one drop at a time, into the DW. Check the voltmeter as the electrolyte is added, drop-by-drop. As soon as the voltage starts to decrease, stop adding sodium carbonate. You should need no more than about two to six drops of electrolyte to cause the voltage to drop to about 90 percent of the starting value. What you have done is to cause enough current to flow across the electrodes to reach the set point of the constant-current PSU. Then add 0.5 mls of cinnamon tincture to the DW. Record the value of the current.
Using the equation in the previous posting, calculate the time required to make 20 ppm CS. Allow the current to run for the required length of time. If you have done everything correctly, you will see the DW quickly start to change colour to a faint yellow and then see the colour deepen to an increasingly brilliant yellow. After the required length of time, you should have a beaker of crystal-clear, whisky-coloured 20 ppm capped CS.
Disconnect the cables, remove the electrodes and allow the CS to cool to room temperature. If there are any particles in the water, filter the CS using the aquarium tubing and air-stone, then bottle in a PET plastic or glass bottle. Clear plastic or glass is fine; it does not have to be brown or blue coloured glass or plastic.
Holding the Silver anode in a pair of forceps or pliers, use a small blowtorch or gas flame to heat the anode until the oxide discolouration on the anode goes white. Allow to cool. This reduces the oxides on the anode back to Silver metal without waste of valuable Silver, and burns off any dross.
After repeating this process several times, you can then produce larger batches. Let us know how you get on.